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Mustafa Suleyman on Superintelligence, Microsoft’s OpenAI Deal, Broligarchy | The Mishal Husain Show

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Mustafa Suleyman co-founded AI lab DeepMind when he was just 26 years old. Four years later, it was acquired by Google for a reported $400 million.

He is now head of Microsoft’s AI unit, where he just unveiled a new superintelligence team tasked with creating an AI that can outperform humans.

In this conversation with Mishal Husain, Suleyman talks about the decisions society has to make about AI, the white-hot war over talent and the competition with other tech bros.

00:00 Introduction from Mishal Husain
01:15 – Suleyman’s daily use of AI
03:55 – Stoicism and the magic of AI
04:57 – Defining superintelligence
07:00 – The AI Wild West
08:47 – Humans misusing technology
11:21 – Promise of abundance, universal basic income
14:19 – Suleyman’s family and decision to drop out of Oxford
20:00 – "Decisions we make may have very lasting consequences”
21:36 – Exploring the ‘broligarchy’
23:15 – His view of Sam Altman and Open AI
25:19 – Conversations with Demis Hassabis about Gemini 3
27:49 – “I’m sort of a centrist these days”
29:50 – AI containment and the role of government
31:48 – Microsoft’s revised deal with OpenAI: “It is a shift for us”
33:44 -The talent war and ‘Zuck’s’ pay packages
36:24 – Circular deals in AI: “Watching it carefully”
38:52 – “I really want to nail medical superintelligence”
40:18 – Suleyman on using AI for emotional support
43:15 – The UK lacks the “hustle culture” of Silicon Valley
45:30 – AI news reporters: “We’re exploring everything”

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What Is an AI Anyway? | Mustafa Suleyman | TED

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When it comes to artificial intelligence, what are we actually creating? Even those closest to its development are struggling to describe exactly where things are headed, says Microsoft AI CEO Mustafa Suleyman, one of the primary architects of the AI models many of us use today. He offers an honest and compelling new vision for the future of AI, proposing an unignorable metaphor — a new digital species — to focus attention on this extraordinary moment. (Followed by a Qu0026A with head of TED Chris Anderson)

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